The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA)
GERMAN PLACE NAMES.
From the Rev. O. NICHTERLEIN, Glen
Osmond:—Mr. Byard expresses the fear that
restoration to the map of the old historical
name of Hahndorf and others would be ac-
companied by a revival of bitterness which
has happily been forgotten here and in the
old country. He seems to overlook the fact
that his correspondence is doing much
towards the revival of the lamentable bit-
terness that was shown towards people of
German descent in Australia during the
war. He also forgets that much of the
bitterness of the war period was brought
about by the action of those who, contrary
to the wishes of the inhabitants, replaced
the names of villages of peace loving
communities by such as are reminiscent of
military glory. I have always understood
that in a democracy the wishes of the
people are consulted, even in local matters
and that they, therefore, should have first
say in the naming of their town. If this
was overlooked under the bias of those
days which Mr. Byard so preferentially
recalls to memory, but which most of us
are anxious to forget, why should it not be
applied now? The expense of changing the
names wan not considered at that time
why should it be considered now
The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA)
GERMAN PLACE NAMES
VIEWS OF THE PREMIER
In the Assembly yesterday the
Premier (Hon. E. L. Butler) told
Mr. Carter that he was taking up with
Mr. A. Grenfell Price the matter of
restoring certain German names of his-
toric value.
The Hon. W. J. Denny—The great
bulk of them ought to be changed.
The Premier —No. I think five or six
should be.
Mr. Collins asked that a poll of the
residents living in the towns should
be taken before any change was made.
Tlie Premier said the Govern-
ment would not do anything in the
matter until they knew that the ma-
jority of the residents in the towns de-
sired a change.
Names to Receive Attention
It is understood that the five names
which will first receive attention are
Tweedvale, Ambleside, Gaza, Marree,
and Loos. These were formerly Lobe-
thal. Hanndorf, Klemzig, Hergot
Springs, and Buchfelde respectively.
Whereas the present names are merely
substitutes of no historical significance
to South Australia, the original names
commemorate the work of German
settlers who hold a definite place in
the records of pioneering effort and
the development of the State. As
well there are at present in South
Australia two places with the name
of Ambleside. In the case of these
five places also it is anticipated that
there will not be any considerable cost
to the State in changing the names.
The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA)
GERMAN PLACE
NAMES
Original And Substituted
Titles
It is considered possible that the
suggestion of Professor Lodewyckx,
Associate Professor of Languages at
the Melbourne University, for the re-
storation of German place names will
be discussed by Cabinet. The follow
ing is a complete list of the original
German names, together with the
changes made by the Nomenclature
Act:—
Bartsch's Creek, now Yedlakoo Creek.
Hundred of Basedow, Hundred of
French.
Cape Bauer, Cape Wondoma.
Berlin Rock, Panpandie Rock.
Bethanien, Bethany.
Bismarck, Weeroopa.
Blumberg, Birdwood.
Blumentbal. Lakkari.
Buchfelde, Loos.
Carlsruhe (or Karlsruhe), Kunden.
Ehrenbreitstein, Mount Yerila.
Ferdinand Creek, Ernabella Creek.
Mount Ferdinand, Mount Warrabil-
inna.
Friedrichstadt, Tongari.
Fnedrischswalde, Tarnma.
Gebhardt's Hills, Polygon Ridge.
German Creek, Benare Creek.
German Pass, Tappa Pass.
Germantown Hill, Vimy Ridge.
Gottliebs's Well, Paruggi Well.
Grunbcrg, Karalta.
Grunthal, Verdun.
Hahndorf, Ambleside.
Hasse's Mound, Larelar Mound
Heidelberg, Kobandilla.
Hergott Springs, Marree.
Hildesheim, Punthari.
Hoffnungsthal, Karawirra.
Hundred of Homburg, Hundred of
Haig.
Jaenschtown, Kerkanya.
Kaiserstuhl, Mount Kitchener.
Klaebes, Kilto.
Klemzig. Gaza.
Krause Rock, Marti Rock
Hundred of Krichauff, Hundred of
Beatty.
Krichauff, Beatty.
Kronsdorf, Kabminye.
Langdorf, Kaldukee.
Langmeil, Bilyara.
Lobethal, Tweedvale.
Mount Meyer, Mount Kanto
Mullers Hill, Yandina Hill.
Neudorf, Mamburdi.
Neukirch, Dimchurch.
New Hamburg, Willyaroo.
New Mecklenburg, Gomersal.
Oliventhal, Olivedale.
Hundred of Paech, Hundred of Can-
nawigra.
Petersburg, Peterborough.
Hundred of Pflaum, Hundred of Gee-
geela.
Rhine Park, Kongolia.
Rhine Hill, Mons.
Rhine River North, The Somme.
Rhine River South, The Marne.
Rhine Villa, Cambrai.
Hundred of Rhine (north), Hundred
of Jellicoe.
Hundred of Rhine (south), Hundred
of Jutland.
Rosenthal, Rosedale.
Hundred of Scherk. Hundred of
Sturdee.
Schoenthal, Boongala.
Hundred of Schomburgk, Hundred
of Maude.
Seppelts, Dorrien.
Schreibeihau, Warre
Siegersdorf, Bultawilta.
Steinfcld, Stonefield.
Summerfeld, Summerfield.
Vogelsangs Corner, Teerksare.
Hundred of Von Doussa, Hundred of
of Allenby.
Wusser's Nob, Karun Nob.
The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA)
RESTORING GERMAN
PLACE NAMES
Nomenclature Bill Passed
By Council
Several members suggested that all
German place names altered during the
war should be restored during the sec-
ond reading debate on the Nomencla-
ture Bill in the Legislative Council yes-
terday, but the majority of members
decided to adhere to the Bill, which
proposes to restore the names of Klem-
zig, Lobethal and Habndorf, and the
Bill was passed without amendment.
The Assembly had previously approved
of the measure.
Stating that the Bill had his whole
hearted support. Mr. Castine (L.C.L.)
said, that, as a Centenary act, they
should restore the whole of the changed
names, in addition to the three sug-
gested in the BilL
Mr. Cowan (L.CL.), in supporting the
Bill, said that the names of Klemzig,
Hanndorf and Lobethal were given as
a compliment to the wishes of deserv-
ing colonists. It would be difficult to
restore the names of certain places,
which had been called after distin-
guished British generals.
"Graceful Gesture"
Mr. Cudmore (L.C.L.), supporting the
Bill, said that he thought that there
were several other places that could
have been included, particularly Her-
gott Springs, now known as Marree.
Mr. Young (L.C.L.) said that it was
fitting that the names should be
changed. It would be a graceful ges-
ture to the memory of those men whom
the State recognised as first-class pion-
eers.
Mr. Condon (A.L.P.) said that he
could not understand why the provi-
sions of the Bill were limited to three
towns. It would be only proper to In-
clude the other places.
Mr. Mowbray (L.C.L.) said that while
he agreed with members that it was
wrong for the names to have been al-
tered, he intended to oppose the Bill
unless there was evidence to show that
the rechanging of the names would not
result in undue expense.
"I do not think that the Bill goes
tax enough," said Mr. Anderson (Ind.).
The names or the pioneers should be
preserved, and I hope that the Govern-
ment will consider restoring all the
place names changed during the war
Mr. Duncan (L.C.L.) said that the
passing of the Bill would show the
towEs which were not included in the
provisions of the measure, that they
could have the names altered if the
feeling of the citizens was nearly unani-
mous.
The Chief Secretary (Sir George
Ritchie) said that officials had no
difficulty in the Lands Titles Office in
altering the names as suggested in the
Bill. He would ascertain for Mr Mow-
bray the cost of making the altera-
tions. If applications to change other
place names were received, they would
be considered by the Government
The Bill was passed without amend-
ment.
